Comments on: Saucony Endorphin Speed 4 vs. Pro 4: The Must-Know Differences Before You Buy

By: Eric

Eric — Sat, 05 Nov 2022 10:12:22 +0000

In reply to David F. Thank you David for the comment. The difference in terms of the upper is very minimal. The Speed is a smidge more padded through the upper because the Pro is supposed to deliver that little bit of extra lightweightness for race day.

By: David F

David F — Wed, 02 Nov 2022 12:45:18 +0000

My first Saucony’s were the Triumph. I swore to never buy Saucony’s again. After reading reviews, I got the Saucony Pros. My favourite shoes ever. I do have a question about the upper. I hated the Triumphs as the upper was extremely hot. The Pros have a very thin upper. What’s the difference in the upper between the Speed and Pros?

By: MB

MB — Tue, 02 Aug 2022 10:00:17 +0000

Regarding the Speed traction – I really notice it when I am running on dry and then I hit a wet patch in the road – it introduces a lot of slip. But I did a half PB on a really wet and cold day and they were fine. As long as everything is wet, they don’t seem to have a traction problem.
I don’t have the Pro, reading comments to see if it is worth investing in a racing shoe, so far not convinced. But I’m on my second set of Speed and I’m about to order my 3rd. The improved my speed the day I put them on, and I’m hesitant to try anything else!

By: Eric

Eric — Mon, 10 Jan 2022 18:33:55 +0000

In reply to Ljm. Thank you so much for stopping by. I think both the Speed and Pro are pretty much comparable in terms of length and width.

By: Ljm

Ljm — Sun, 09 Jan 2022 23:24:02 +0000

Thanks so much for your article! I wish it was dated for perspective. I’ve been running in Brooks Ghost & on whim saw the Endorphin Pro (v1) discounted as they came out with Pro 2 and decided to try them. Maybe I’m clueless, but I don’t feel “stiffness.” I’m only wearing them for my speed workouts (and first time today for a tempo). Yes, they make me run faster… and I had to get used to “they MAKE me!” I felt like they forced me into a faster cadence, which is probably good. My concern, and my reason for thinking about the Speed, is that I’ve read that the traction isn’t great, and I’m training for Boston, where it sometimes rains… heavily. I have a somewhat wide forefoot, but even more significantly I have 4 long toes! (almost the same length) I’m wondering if the fit of the Speed and the Pro (versions 1) are similar. Anyone with any thoughts? Thanks so much!

By: Jackie

Jackie — Wed, 22 Sep 2021 14:43:15 +0000

I have been training in the speeds and just bought a pair of pros for an upcoming marathon and… don’t love them. I WANT to love them, but I don’t. I’ve been doing MP work in the speeds on long runs and they feel like an extension of my foot and really roll. I notice the pros a lot more when I’m running and they just don’t quite fit with my stride as nicely – feels like I have to fight with them a bit more to get them rolling and popping in the right way. Just purchased a fresh new pair of speeds for race day.

By: Eric

Eric — Tue, 07 Sep 2021 07:52:01 +0000

In reply to SS. Thanks very much for your valuable contribution to our comparison. Good luck with your training.

By: SS

SS — Tue, 07 Sep 2021 01:16:48 +0000

Thanks for the thorough review! I’ve used the Speed for 5k and 10k races and tempo runs in the past year and love it. I bought a pair of Pros for an upcoming marathon and tried them in a long training run at marathon pace last weekend, and they just didn’t feel good. The light weight and rolling motion did keep me moving along, but they felt too firm and made my ankles and quads sore. I’m thinking now I will use the Speed for the marathon. I’ve used Kinvaras in the past for marathons and they work pretty well, but are on the minimal side and I start to wish I had more cushioning under my feet after 15 or so miles.

By: Sharon A Winiewicz

Sharon A Winiewicz — Thu, 19 Aug 2021 17:26:59 +0000

In reply to Eric. Yes. I bought the speed then someone told me to try the Pro and you know the results. Thanks again!

By: Eric

Eric — Tue, 17 Aug 2021 19:43:15 +0000

In reply to Sharon W. You're very lucky to have tried both of them. Your comment is very valuable. Thanks.

By: Sharon W

Sharon W — Tue, 17 Aug 2021 18:53:03 +0000

I have both shoes. I was trying to decided which one to use for the marathon of a Ironman. I like the feel of the speed better than the Pro. The Pro feels much stiffer and the Speed is more comfortable and seems to be better for tired feet after swimming and biking. Your review was excellent. Thank you very much!

By: Eric

Eric — Sun, 11 Jul 2021 19:10:00 +0000

In reply to David Bradley. Dave, Upgrading from the Ride to the Endorphin is a good move. I would suggest you go for the Speed as it can perform great for training and racing especially regarding your level of fitness. You're now transitioning to a new philosophy and spending more time training and racing in a shoe makes sure you level up faster.

By: David Bradley

David Bradley — Sun, 11 Jul 2021 17:10:26 +0000

Thx for the considered article. I have the Speed 1, changing from Ride 13s, and I’m mainly a triathlete but do some 5ks and halves. My data says I gain about :30/mi pace for ~same effort, and my knees love the new cushion. I had to really improve my form to match these shoes (2 weeks of sore calves and inner thighs). I’m not a fast runner (races are 8-9 min/mi), and the stack, cushion and sole width do require stronger ankles. As model 1 is on closeout now (Speed and Pro), I’m trying to decide if I should double down on Speed or get the Pro and dedicate to racing. “Both,” is probably the right answer, but $$$. Your thoughts? I also have to size up for running due to high instep (~all brands), which puts my arch just fitting, sometimes heel can be loose. TY!